Glamour: So, now that we’ve established you’re obsessed with hot sauce, what’s your favorite?
Nilou Motamed: That’s like asking somebody about their baby… A new favorite that I was actually turned on to by the Foxtrot team is Shaquanda’s Hot Pepper Sauce. The packaging is super cool, really edgy. The person who makes it is a drag queen based in Bushwick, and they’re of Barbados descent. I spent a lot of time in Barbados; I used to actually host a rum and food festival there. Also, Pickapeppa Sauce is a really great condiment. That’s one of the things that was in the fridge door that fell on me.
You’ve spoken a lot about keeping restaurants alive amid the pandemic. Do you have a favorite takeout spot?
We get takeout from F+F Pizza. It’s the pizza restaurant that’s connected to Frankie’s 457 [in Brooklyn, New York]. Actually, their olive oil is in one of the boxes. It’s pretty fancy and pretty artisanal, but it’s an old-school New York pie, but plussed up in a big way.
What four items are always in your pantry?
I always have olive oil, I always have sea salt—like flaky sea salt. I always have chocolate—chocolate is important—and then something hot. I like sauces that I can then use as a base for food. So for example, the NY Shuk Signature Harissa that is in the box. It’s got so much sexy depth of flavor that you can build a sauce from that very easily and quickly.
What podcast are you listening to right now?
We’re a little bit hooked on True Crime these days. S-Town was really compelling. [Reading] “John despises his Alabama talent and decides to do something about it. He asks a reporter to investigate the son of a wealthy family who’s allegedly bragging that he got away with murder.”
Do you have a food-related travel hack?
When we travel, even if we go on a weekend away to an Airbnb, I have to bring my own vinegar. I’m not kidding around. And my own olive oil and my own salt. Jacobsen’s Sea Salt comes in a little carry tin and I always have one in my purse. How depressing is it when [restaurants] give you those shakers of iodized salt? I don’t want that on my food, so I pull my own salt out of my bag and feel very indulged.
What’s an impulse buy you can’t help but reach for at the market?
I guess I already mentioned chocolate. If I see sexy-looking dark chocolate, I kind of can’t resist that.
What kitchen tool gets the most use in your kitchen?
if I’m going to pick one thing I would say the Microplane zester. You can use it for everything, and I love it. You can use it for chocolate, you can use it for cheese, you can use it for zesting limes and lemons. We use it for garlic when I’m making a garlicky vinaigrette. It makes everything into a game, like, “Let’s Microplane that!” A lot of Italian chefs are not into using a zester for cheese; they feel like that’s like sacrilege. But when I’m at home I can do whatever I want.
It is funny to take all the input after 20-plus years of being in the food space and then you end up gravitating towards simple, delicious stuff—a great olive oil, the perfect sea salt. Having my Microplane zester, a good glass of orange wine, and I’m basically happy.
I keep hearing about orange wine!
Orange wine is wine that is left on the skin, so it looks all different colors. The flavor profile, I always say, is somewhere between kombucha and—it’s not gonna sound good—Band-Aids.
I know it doesn’t make any sense, but it’s natural wine so it’s like a little bit yeasty, it’s a little fermenty, a little funky, a little barnyard. But what’s interesting about it is it feels so alive, and every bottle is different, so it’s a joy of discovery. Maybe natural wine and orange wine is a great metaphor for this whole collaboration. Foxtrot is all about discovery, and I’m all about curating that discovery and fundamentally giving people joy.